Jun 27, 2009

"Why so serious?.."

Why is there so much suffering in the world when your all powerful lord can easily end it? Luckily we can ask the bible's version of the man who suffered most. Job.

I think it is important to note that the book of Job was written by at least two different authors. Everyone knows the story of god making a bet with a devil's advocate to get Job to curse god and how the satan made Job suffer all the ways he could think of to no avail. God wins the bet and gives Job all his shit back. However, the middle bit of the story was written by a different author as a kind of conversation between Job and three of his friends regarding Job's suffering (in poetic form). This story ends with Job calling god out, which doesn't go well, and subsequently leaves Job repenting for no apparent reason.

Focusing only on the question of why there is suffering, we get two reasons from Job. One is that god has a heavy gambling addiction- kicked out of every casino in heaven he is forced to make these bets with the satan, the other is...

Let's just stick with blaming it on women and their love of snakes, whaddya say christians?
I will probably be hitting a few more things about Job in the future (there is so much), but I wanted to get this out- MJ's death had me think about the charites he gave to which made me think of all the suffering and reminded me of one of my major questions of the god fallacy. In the meantime, I hope you read about the Ugarit so you can understand the fact that, the poem- the bit with Job and his buddies, never calls god YHWH (the christian god). It is called Eloahh (probably where Allah comes from), Elohiym (the council of gods of the Ugarit of which YHWH was one), or El Shaddai ( I consider to be mother nature). Of course, Wikipedia says there may be a Sumerian source that the entire story of Job was copied from, I haven't looked into that but I think it is likely (as is the case with most of the Old Testament).

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Are you saying the religion of the canaanites disprove the bible in such a way it discredits it? Or because they have similarities in literature it somehow shows that GOD doesnt exist?

Lay down your narrative and please expound. This should be very interesting. I mean for someone who doesnt believe in any GOD, how is it you can draw your conclusion one way or the other?

BIGDOG

Marcus said...

This post only deals with the question of why a god would allow all the suffering we see in the world today.
The bit about your YhWh is to show that the hebrew god (and your god) was taken from an older religion. It is likely that the entire story of Job was taken from an older religion with the names and places changed to fit with the beliefs of the dominant society.

Anonymous said...

Once again im asking you to lay out you narrative towards the canaanites religion and the hebrew religion. Im asking for a clear picture of why you keep refering to Ugarit text as if it somehow discredits the hebrew god. I dont care what your post is about, at this point im asking you for a clear explaination of what you are trying to get at. In fact based on what im hearing so far you need to read up on these ancient texts and mabe then you can be more percise and to the point.


"This post only deals with the question of why a god would allow all the suffering we see in the world today."

Once again GOD doesnt exist to you, so you cant blame GOD for all the suffering.Oh and another fine example of you blaming GOD. In fact its very interesting how you point blame at a deity you say doesnt exist. Oh how fucking convenient...LMAO!!! How come you dont blame mankind for all our ailments?

BIGDOG

Marcus said...

Stop acting like you don't believe what your own fucking god preaches.

None of this shit has a goddamn thing to do with whether or not I believe in your invisible sky daddy. These are YOUR stories. Are you really incapable of understanding such a simple concept?!

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHA!! now i see clearly why you removed your last blog. you dont even believe your own bullshit.


One last time.

"Once again im asking you to lay out you narrative towards the canaanites religion and the hebrew religion. Im asking for a clear picture of why you keep refering to Ugarit text as if it somehow discredits the hebrew god......In fact based on what im hearing, so far you need to read up on these ancient texts and mabe then you can be more percise and to the point."

You bring this shit up and asked for a complete and percise narrative you fold like a lawn chair.

Nice one marcpuss.

!@!CHOP!@!

Marcus said...

I'm not going to lay it all out for you. I don't want sheep, I want people to think for themselves (although, this has proven too difficult for you). The Ugarit were older than monotheism. One god was chosen, one god did not choose. Get it? I know you don't.

Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHA!!! i cant have a battle of wits with an unarmed man. It just isnt fair.

Still havent explained your position and wrote it off as me not thinking for myself...HAHAHAHA!! avoidance is easily identified.

Marcus said...

You can't have a battle of wits if you keep yourself locked away from the battlefield in the lonliest tower in the fortress of your mind.
Rapunzel, Rapunzel- the key is in your pocket.

Anonymous said...

Still avoiding a simple narrative for your BS rhetoric. How quaint?

Marcus said...

Buy my book.

Anonymous said...

HAHAHA!!!

I knew you were full of shit.

Marcus said...

Yeshua probably told you that, didn't he? That bastard is just jealous, don't listen to him. I saw his face in a shit I left in the toilet and he's pissed that I didn't sell it on e-bay and donate the money to the creationist museum like he told me to do in my heart. I tried to tell him/his dad/the holy phantom that it is in my sinful nature to flush shit down the toilet, he forgave me and we made sweet love (he'll deny that if you ask him). Why don't you "lay out your narrative"? That would do more to show me the truth (I mean Truth) than your idioticly fallacious, self-righteously propagandistic, screwball questions. I won't hold my breath.

Anonymous said...

Why dont you just admit you have no clear narrative. More like you dont know what the fuck you is talking about.

Marcus said...

It it YOU who thinks he's got it all figured out. You no longer look for the truth about the world you live in, you ignore facts that don't agree with your god. Not only do you no longer search for truth, you're PROUD of that fact. You've got a long way to go.

Anonymous said...

Still waiting.

Marcus said...

Well, you've already been told so, I'm not sure what it is you're waiting for.

PS- NO LOITERING

Anonymous said...

Yeh i have been told nothing and therfore anything you say is credited to NOTHING!!!

Oh ye empty vesel....LMAO!!!

Marcus said...

You're just a dinghy.